The seven candidates on stage for Wednesday night's second presidential debate went after President Joe Biden, one another and the absent GOP front-runner.
The at-times chaotic event featured staple questions about immigration, economics and abortion but also spawned a new nickname for Donald Trump, included some cringey sexual references and kept our fact-checkers busy.
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Who would you vote off the GOP island?
As the debate neared its end, moderator Dana Perino asked the candidates to write down which of their on-stage competitors should be voted off the 2024 GOP island.
But they didnât bite. âWith all due respect, I think that thatâs disrespectful,â DeSantis said in response to the âSurvivorâ-style question.
Christie said Trump should be booted given his decision to skip the debate, and he accused him of dividing the country.
Ramaswamy slipped in the last word, praising Trumpâs legacy but saying he was the better candidate to push forward an âAmerica firstâ agenda.
And with that, the second Republican primary debate was over.
Ramaswamy levels criticism toward Ukraine
Ramaswamy is leveling criticism toward Ukraine in answer to a question about continuing U.S. support for the country.
âJust because Putin is an evil dictator does not mean Ukraine is good,â Ramaswamy says.
He also says China, not Russia, is the United Statesâ real enemy, and argues that the hard U.S. line toward Russia âis driving Russia further into Chinaâs arms.â
DeSantis rejects idea that anti-abortion stance costs GOP elections
DeSantis is rejecting the idea that Republicans have been losing elections because of their opposition to abortion, and he says his reelection as Florida governor last year is proof heâs right.
Democrats have leaned into the debate over abortion rights since a conservative majority on the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last year. Voters have repeatedly supported abortion rights, and Democrats and even Trump have said itâs a big reason for the partyâs better-than-expected performance in the midterms and in other elections since then.
DeSantis signed into law a ban on abortions at six weeks of pregnancy, before some women know theyâre pregnant. He signed the ban after winning reelection.
Asked about the possibility that swing state Arizona will have an abortion question on its ballot next year, making it tougher for Republicans to win there, DeSantis dismissed the idea. He also called out Trump, who said it was a âterrible mistakeâ for DeSantis to sign the ban.
DeSantis said Republicans must go on the offensive and hit Democrats for their âextremismâ on the issue.
Scott's job goals would be extremely difficult to meet
Scott floated some ambitiously lofty job goals at the GOP debate, suggesting his policies could create 10 million jobs in a year and drive growth at 5%.
That would be an unusually large and unlikely set of hiring. More than 7 million jobs were created in 2021 under President Joe Biden, as the economy recovered from the pandemic. But deficit spending and inflation accompanied those gains â both points of attack by the Republican candidate.
Scott said he could create 3.5 million jobs âif we unleashed all our energy resources.â That would be impressive as oil and gas extraction account for just 118,700 jobs right now, according to the Labor Department.
Secondly, Scott said he could create jobs by bringing back factory jobs. Manufacturing work has rebounded under Biden to nearly 13 million jobs, the most since 2008. But few economists see manufacturing work as returning to its 1979 peak of more than 19 million jobs.
South Carolina family feud
Theyâve long had an intertwined political history, and even shared political consultants, but Haley and Scottâs differences took center stage on Wednesday.
The sparred on stage after being asked why one should be elected president over the other.
Scott touted his work on 2017 tax cuts legislation, said heâd âlove to have an opportunity to have this country pass a balanced budget amendmentâ and promoted his plans to âbring jobs back to America.â
âI appreciate Tim, weâve known each other a long time,â Haley said, âbut heâs been there 12 years and he hasnât done any of that.â
Scott shot back, pointing out that Haley - who has called for an end to the federal gas tax as part of her campaign - âactually asked for a gas tax increase in South Carolina.â
âWeâve waited, and nothing has happened,â Haley said, turning back to her critique of Scottâs time in the Senate. It was Haley as governor in 2012 who appointed Scott to the seat in the first place.
Haley pivots debate conversation to China again and again
Warning about the threats she perceived are posed by China is key to Haleyâs stump, and itâs on full display in the debate.
Several times, Haley has pivoted her part in the conversation by noting that some U.S. supplies of amoxicillin come from China. Several times, she has pointed to Ramaswamyâs ties to the country, from business deals to his presence on TikTok, a wholly owned subsidiary of Chinese technology firm ByteDance Ltd.
Haley also went after Trumpâs China policy, saying that she feels the former president was too focused on the U.S.-China trade relationship and did too little about possible threats from the country.
Haley defends sendi
ng special ops to deal with Mexican cartels
Mexico has been a critical partner on border enforcement with the Trump and Biden administrations, but Haley defends sending special operations to deal with Mexican drug cartels, a common position among those on the debate stage.
Itâs a nonstarter for Mexicoâs leaders.
Mexico has deployed thousands of troops to its southern border to stop U.S.-bound migrants.
In January, it agreed to take back people from Cuban, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela if they enter the United States illegally, a major concession to deal with populations that are difficult to deport.
Going against medical professionals, Ramaswamy calls being transgender a âmental health disorderâ
Ramaswamy called being transgender a âmental health disorderâ and âconfusionâ in response to a question about parental notification about their childrenâs gender identities. That's in direct contrast to guidance from the American Psychiatric Association, which says diverse gender expressions â .â
To make his point, Ramaswamy noted that he recently met two young women who later regretted their gender-affirming surgeries.
While itâs possible, regret after a gender transition is rare. In a involving almost 8,000 teens and adults who had transgender surgeries, mostly in Europe, the U.S and Canada, 1% on average expressed regret.
Haley tells Ramaswamy: âWe canât trust you'
For a moment, it was Haley vs. Ramaswamy, round two.
As they did in last monthâs debut debate, Haley and Ramaswamy had a split-screen sparring back-and-forth in which Haley went after the political newcomer for inexperience and, she alleged, dangerous ideas.
Asked about his recent conversation with a TikTok influencer, Ramaswamy defended his use of the platform.
âIâm the new guy here, and so I know I have to earn your trust,â Ramaswamy said. âIâm here to tell you, no, I donât know at all. I will listen.â Interjecting by calling TikTok âdangerous,â Haley went on to address Ramaswamy directly â and personally.
âEvery time I hear you, I feel a little bit dumber for what you say,â Haley said. âWe canât trust you.â
Ramaswamy responded by saying that âI think we would be better served as a Republican Party if weâre not sitting here hurling personal insults,â before the moderators moved on to another topic.
Moderator threatens to cut Burgum's mic
The debate is getting chaotic at times, with candidates shouting over one another and the moderators scolding them for not waiting their turns.
At one point, moderator Dana Perino warned Burgum, who was trying to interrupt the questioning, that they would have to cut off his microphone if he didnât stop interjecting. âI donât want to do that,â she said, pleadingly âI donât.â
Moderators also told candidates multiple times that the cross-talking meant they would get fewer questions.
Scott says there is no redeeming quality in slavery
The topic of education also led to the issue of teaching about racism in public schools. Under DeSantis, Florida approved a controversial curriculum that suggests some enslaved people learned useful skills while they were in bondage.
Scott, the only Black candidate on stage Wednesday night, reiterated his criticism of the curriculum under DeSantis by saying, âThere is not a redeeming quality in slavery.â
He also suggested that the United States had turned the page on its history.
âWe are the greatest nation on earth because we faced our demons in the mirror,â Scott said. He added that, âAmerica is not a racist country.â
Debate brings the cringe
A question about education took two uncomfortable and unexpected turns at Wednesday night's presidential debate.
Saying that Americaâs public schools are ârun by the teachers unions in this country,â Christie said U.S. schools would continue to struggle because, in his view, the Biden administration is too close to the unions.
âWhen you have the president that states sleeping with a member of the teachers union, there is no chance that you can take the stranglehold away from the teachers union every day,â Christie said.
In a later question, Pence chimed in, saying that he had been âsleeping with a teacher for 38 yearsâ â but noting that his wife, Karen, is not a union member.
No new ground broken on immigration at debate
Candidates have devoted significant time to discussing the border but said nothing significantly new. Their policy prescriptions were largely in line with each other and with Trump, who made it a signature issue.
Pence, ignoring a question about what he would do to protect immigrants who came to the country as young children, spoke about a Trump-era policy to make asylum-seekers wait in Mexico for U.S. court hearings and cracking down on asylum. Ramaswamy spoke about repealing a constitutional right to birthright citizenship, a position that Trump has entertained.
Candidates spoke as if the influx of asylum-seekers began under Bidenâs watch, but it began years earlier. By 2017, the United States became the worldâs most popular destination for asylum-seekers, a position it has held ever since, according to the U.N. refugee agency.
Migration has unquestionably grown sharply under Biden. Border arrests topped 2.2 million at the Mexican border in the 2022 fiscal year, which runs from October to September, the highest on record and more than twice the peak year of 852,000 under Trump in 2019. Arrests topped 400,000 during Obamaâs last full year in office.
People arriving in families with children under 18 are again behind surging numbers, reaching 93,108 arrests in August, surpassing the previous high of 84,486 under Trumpâs watch in May 2019.
So far, no talk of funding for Ukraine
The debateâs more than halfway done, but there has been no mention so far of the big political issue that is threatening a government shutdown as soon as this weekend â funding for Ukraine against the Russian invasion.
Much discussion in the candidatesâ first debate on Ukraine funding.
Youngest candidate says teens should avoid âaddictive social mediaâ
Heâs the only GOP presidential candidate on TikTok, but Ramaswamy is talking about teens staying away from âaddictive social media.â
In a question about security, Ramaswamy pivoted to a discussion of border security, talking about teens turning to social media like Snapchat to procure pharmaceuticals.
âIf youâre 16 years old or under, you should not be using an addictive social media product, period,â he said.
Ramaswamy, who at 38 is the youngest candidate on stage, has referred to TikTok as âdigital fentanylâ but earlier this month joined the platform, with his campaign saying he was .
The platform has been met with is a potential spy mechanism for China.
Border wall won't stop fentanyl from coming across border
DeSantis raises the possibility of military intervention in Mexico when asked about fentanyl. Ramaswamy calls for more border wall when asked about fentanyl. Both ignore some critical facts about how the drug gets into the country.
Fentanyl seizures occurred predominantly at official land crossings, where commuters and visitors smuggle drugs on their bodies or in their vehicles. From September through August, 11.4 tons of the 12.8 tons of fentanyl seized at the border Mexico were discovered at land crossings, while the remaining 1.4 tons were in between border crossings, where people enter the country illegally.
At a hearing July 12, James Mandryck, a Customs and Border Protection deputy assistant commissioner, said 73% of fentanyl seizures at the border since the previous October were smuggling attempts carried out by U.S. citizens, with the rest being done by Mexican citizens.
Trump gets a nickname of his own: Donald Duck
Christie has a new name for Trump â Donald Duck.
A former ally who broke with Trump over his election denial, Christie awarded the moniker to the absent Republican front-runner for skipping the debate.
Speaking into the camera, Christie said, âI know youâre watchingâ because âyou canât help yourself.â And he accused Trump of being absent because âyouâre afraid of being on this stage and defending your record.â
âNo one up here is going to call you Donald Trump anymore. Weâre going to call you Donald Duck.â
Pence reminds voters of his time as VP
Pence is using his time onstage to remind viewers heâs a White House alumnus.
Twice asked a question about working to protect immigrants from deportation if they came with their parents as young children, Pence ignored it and emphasized his resume instead.
The former vice president recalled how during the Trump administration, he had negotiated the policy to make asylum seekers wait in Mexico for court hearings in the U.S.
âThis is no time for on the job training,â Pence said. âIâm going to be ready on Day 1.â
Scott accuses Ramaswamy of being in business with CCP
Scott briefly shed his Mr. Nice Guy reputation to flame Ramaswamy for being âin business with the Chinese Communist Party.â
The attack line, a reference to Ramaswamyâs former career as an entrepreneur, fulfilled a promise from Scottâs campaign that the South Carolina senator would be more aggressive after being overshadowed in the first debate.
Ramaswamy responded angrily, leading to a long stretch of crosstalk that the moderators struggled to rein in.
âWhen you all speak at the same time, no can understand you,â said Univision anchor Ilia CalderĂłn.
Some of DeSantis' ideas for China match Biden's actions
DeSantis says the United States needs a âtotally new approach to China.â
Part of what he calls for Biden is already doing. That includes strengthening U.S. hard power in the Indo-Pacific. DeSantis does call for âdecouplingâ the U.S. economy from China.
Biden is trying to wean the U.S. supply chain off China but denies seeking to decouple the two economies.
Burgum not waiting for his turn
Burgum is looking for more talking time â and heâs not being shy about it.
The North Dakota governor interjected a couple of times in the first 20 minutes of Wednesday nightâs debate, talking over moderators and his fellow hopefuls, in one response interjecting, âNobody answered the questionâ after others were asked about child care.
âWe will get you some questions,â said moderator Dana Perino. âBut you will have to let us move on.â
There have already been several moments where the moderators struggled to get candidates to stop talking among themselves and focus on the question at hand.
Candidates agree US economic future should be powered by gas
GOP presidential candidates started their second debate by mostly agreeing that the U.S. economic future should be powered by gasoline.
In lockstep, they all demonized the Biden administrationâs support for electric vehicles. Itâs a shift that is meant to limit the damages of climate change, but presidential candidates say it would hurt the U.S. auto sector and enrich China. The unanimity reflected the challenge candidates face to stand out on policy issues.
âJoe Bidenâs Green New Deal agenda is good for Beijing and bad for Detroit,â Pence said.
Burgum said unionized autoworkers are striking because their employers âneed two-thirds less workers to build an electric car.â
Ramaswamy went to his refrain that he would âunlock American energy, drill, frack, burn coal, embrace nuclear energy.â
DeSantis takes early swing at Trump in debate
After taking criticism for going soft on Trump, DeSantis took a swing at him early in the debate.
âAnd you know who is missing in action? Donald Trump is missing in action,â DeSantis said, blasting the former president for skipping the debate.
The criticism came shortly after a similar attack from Christie, who said Trump âhides behind the walls of his golf clubsâ instead of answering questions.
DeSantisâ swipe at Trump marks a definite shift for the Florida governor, who largely avoided pointed criticism of the former president in the first debate.
Scott angling to be more of the conversation
Scott didnât have much talking time during the first GOP debate, but he started to make up for that as soon as Wednesday nightâs gathering got underway.
The first question went to Scott, who caught criticism for saying âyou strike, youâre firedâ about the United Auto Workers dispute. Scott quipped that Biden âshould not be on the picket line, he should be on the southern border,â turning the rest of his answer to concerns about border security.
Scott also was asked to respond after Pence said Biden âbelongs on the unemployment line,â saying he disagreed with Scott.
âThereâs no doubt that Joe Biden needs to be fired,â Scott said. âThatâs why Iâm running for president.â
Republicans turn questions about autoworkers strike into Biden attack
The debate started with questions about the United Auto Workers strike, but the Republicans kept the focus squarely on Biden.
âJoe Biden should not be on the picket line. He should be on the southern border,â said Scott, who got the first question.
Next up was Ramaswamy, who said the workers should âgo picket in front of the White House in Washington, D.C.,â because âthatâs really where the protest needs to be.â
Pence took a swing at it next. âJoe Biden doesnât belong on the picket line. He belongs on the unemployment line.â
Trump's mug shot appears in debate intro
Trump skipped the Fox Business-Univision debate but appeared briefly in its introduction - or at least his mug shot did.
The debate at the Reagan library started with a montage of the former president followed by clips of the seven candidates who are appearing on stage.
Trumpâs mug shot â from one of the criminal cases against him, filed in Georgia â flashed on screen as a voiceover questioned: Would Reagan even recognize the country today?
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